GEORGIA BOARD OF SCHOOL DIRECTORS

Special Meeting (Community Forum on High School Choice)

September 29, 2009 at 6:00pm ~ Georgia Elementary Middle School Gymnasium

MINUTES


WELCOME

Doug Bergstrom, School Board Chair welcomed the community to the public forum on High School Choice and called the meeting to order at 6:15pm. He introduced members of the School Board: Doug Bergstrom (Chair), Jennifer Petrie (Clerk), Irene Bonin, Carl Laroe, Jr., and Matthew Crepeau.


PRESENTATION

Doug Bergstrom, Chair of the Georgia School Board of Directors, spoke on behalf of the Board, the Administration, and Franklin West Supervisory Union and thanked everyone for coming to the open forum on school choice in Georgia.


He gave the following remarks in conjunction with an informational slide presentation.

(the presentation can be accessed at http://georgiasbvt.pbworks.com)


(Slide 1 – 2) “I would like to start out this evening clearing up some misinformation that appears to be circulating around the community. First and foremost at this time we are not sending all of our students to any one high school. The board has not chosen a school nor has the board entered into an agreement with any school to take all of our children. The board does not have the authority to designate a public high school…only the voters of Georgia have that responsibility. The board is not eliminating choice for Georgia residents through Act 44. Act 44 only limits the community’s financial liability for these choices. And finally the Board or Supervisory Union has no hidden agenda in the matter of school choice. Our only agenda is to have an informed public.”


(Slide 3) “The Georgia School Board is committed to providing all its students with a quality education at a cost taxpayers will support. This requires the Board to consistently evaluate the cost-benefit relationship of current education. Tonight, the board is trying to gauge, as we head into our next budgeting cycle during these tough economic times, if valuable time should be spent on the topic of school choice and to see if the community wants us to look into the possibility of what appears at first glance to be a significant cost savings over our current system. The board felt that it was our fiscal responsibility to bring this topic forward to the community to discuss. When we build a budget, the board only has control over the Pre K – 8 portion of the budget.”


(Slide 4) “The high school portion (which accounts for approximately 30% of our budget), we currently have absolutely no control over. High schools set a tuition rate that is approved by the state. The state also sets a state average tuition rate that our district pays to private independent high schools. At the end of the school year, schools have the option of going back to the state and adjusting their tuition rates to cover the actual cost of education. The state will then approve this new tuition rate which allows the schools to go back and adjust the charges for the preceding year.”


(Slide 5-7) “Over the past few years we have seen an increase in our high school spending with increases brought forward by BFA Saint Albans of an average of 7.25% per year and a proposed 2010 increase of 10.75% increase. In additional we have had back bills from BFA over the last two years of $79,304 and $106,901. These are dollars that come directly from our Pre K – 8 budgets. The first two years we were not prepared for this kind of expense but luckily we managed to find the money without any major impact to our school here at Georgia. This past year Bruce Chattman and I sat down with the BFA finance team and administration to discuss the reason for these increases as well as if we should plan on them continuing. As a result of that meeting, this years budget does plan for 8% increase falling 2.75% short of BFA’s 10.75% proposed increase. To be fair to BFA, we did receive a bill from South Burlington as well last year of $1,448 but it didn’t have quite the impact of the BFA bill due to the smaller number of students that currently attend South Burlington and the fact that South Burlington chose to absorb 3% of the increase. As you can see it is very difficult to accurately budget for these expenses. These bills and the increased tuition is what lead us to the discussion of Act 44 at our annual retreat. At the Board’s annual retreat in August where we discuss and plan our agenda for the upcoming year, Bruce Chattman, our superintendent, brought to the Board’s attention a change in school law regarding communities without a high school. The board at that time had many questions about how this law would impact Georgia residents and students and felt that the best course of action was to discuss it with the community to get feedback and to gauge support and opposition to the this change for Georgia. Tonight we will discuss Act 44 and how it could affect Georgia. We will also show the difference in today’s tuition rates among the various high schools in our area and the how this change could impact the taxpayers of Georgia. And of course the biggest reason for us being here tonight is to hear from you. We want to know what goes into your decisions when choosing a high school. Thought and concerns you may have about designation of a school. And finally how do the taxpayers of Georgia want the board to proceed.”


(Slide 7-8) “This past spring the Vermont legislature passed Act 44 which changed the laws for communities that do not have their own high school. This change allows schools such as ours, to designate a public high school for our students to attend. This allows boards to better budget for their high school tuition cost and to help communities control and better plan their total education costs. Students who want to choose a different high school can still do so but depending on the cost of the chosen school, would need to pay the difference between that schools tuition rate and the designated school for Georgia.”


(Slide 9) “This chart shows the tuition rates for this year for area high schools. Also located on the chart is the number of students we have budgeted to attend each high school. Under our current choice plan, a Georgia student entering high school can attend any high school he/she chooses. The community will pay the full tuition rate to any public high school. If the student chooses a private independent high school, then Georgia, pays up to the state average for those students. Any student attending Rice or other religious affiliated school receives no Georgia funding. As we build our budget over the next few months, we try to predict where our students will go and budget accordingly. And it will not be until the following November, when we receive our first tuition bills, that we find out how close we were in that prediction.”


(Slide 10) “With Act 44 Georgia can choose one of these schools to be our designated high school. For example if we were to choose BFA St. Albans as our designated school than our total tuition would increase 173, 087. If we were to choose BFA Fairfax as our designated high school then our tuition would decrease 591,643. As you can see on the chart, only two schools would increase our total tuition dollars, the remaining schools would decrease our total tuition. Now remember these are raw numbers that would have to be finalized through the planning process should you decide to direct the board to look into this further. After complete analyses of cost, school impact, and additional unforeseen changes, the board would bring back a recommendation to the community to be voted upon at Town Meeting. This process would not be completed by Town meeting of 2010 but most likely would occur the following year 2011. If approved by the voters of Georgia, the process would then be phased in over the next 4 years grandfathering students already attending a choice high school. What are the benefits of this to Georgia?

1.) Better budgeting and cost control

2.) Ability to provide bussing for High School students

3.) Possibility of creating our “OWN” High School

4.) Possibility of more control in curriculum

5.) Possibility of the ability to vote on High School budgets.

The last three items, as you heard, I added the word possibility. That is because we might also want to consider creating or joining a Union High School. We do not have any information on this at this time but it is another item that has come up in preliminary discussions. The economy of our state is another reason for this discussion.”


(Slide 11) “State economists predict that the health of the state economy will not improve in the near future.”


(Slide 12) “As you can see here in this chart by the joint fiscal office the general fund is predicted to have a $165 million dollar deficit by 2012.”


(Slide 13) “Current General Fund revenues to the education fund are expected to decrease.”


(Slide 14) “Currently $355,957 of current state revenue is being provided with ARRA (stimulus) money and may be continued into 2011 but will disappear at the end of ARRA.”


(Slide 15) “Teachers Retirement costs, which have been underfunded, will increase $19.4 million to $59.9 million.”


(Slide 16) “The base education payment per student (ADM) will be level funded at $8,544 next year. What this means is in the past we have had increases in state funding to help offset rising cost on items such as salaries, benefits, utilities etc. Now we will get the same money per student as we do this year without any adjustment for increasing cost.”


(Slide 17) “This will result in an increase to property taxes without increasing the school budget.”


(Slide 18) “At this time I would like to have I would like to ask Bruce Chattman, our Superintendent, speak to you.”


Bruce Chattman explained that the state economy has been going downhill for some time now. He stated that the education funding support will decline soon, prompting a change. His advocacy has been to be part of facilitating change and be part of a solution that is something that makes sense for this community. He emphasized that Georgia is a wonderful K-8 school and gives the benefit of High School choice which he would want for his own children. However, he added that at some point the cost for the existing situation will become burdensome. There will be either large increases in property taxes or cuts in programs. He strongly encouraged the community to attend Town Meeting and budget hearings and come together to support a plan that makes sense. He reiterated that there will be change; some will be good. The community can choose to look at a governance change, or a more cohesive agreement with area high schools, etc. He highlighted that the financial piece is scary and stated that community members need to pay attention to what is happening.


Doug Bergstrom thanked Bruce for his insight and comments, and resumed the presentation: “We now want to start tonight discussion off. We are going to have our Board members writing down items from our discussions here tonight on the flip charts in front of us. I know many of you have raised concerns about changes to choice and because we have so many in attendance this evening the board thought this would be a good time to gather information for not only this board but for future boards to have. So first, we want to hear feedback on two specific questions and then we will have time for open discussion.”


PUBLIC COMMENT

(Slide 19) Doug Bergstrom framed two questions that the Board is asking the community to answer:

1. “What criteria do you have in your choice for a high school?

2. “What are your thoughts about creating a Georgia High School or Union High School?


The following community members offered responses and various considerations:


Doug Bergstrom announced that the Board would also open the forum up to general discussion on the subject of choice for Georgia. He noted that due to the large number of people, speakers would be limited Georgia voters only and allowed 2 minutes per speaker. After all voters have had a chance to speak, additional time will be allowed for follow up questions or for others to ask questions. The meeting will be ending at 8:00pm. He asked the speakers to print their name on the sign up sheet and to state their name prior to speaking. He encouraged anyone who does not get a chance to ask a question to please contact a board member or school administrator. He noted that phone numbers and emails are available in the handout.


Doug Bergstrom asked for Dan Harvey to come forward. He read the following statement from Rep. Carolyn Branagan who could not attend the forum:


Dear Friends,


Since I am unable to attend tonight's meeting, my friend and neighbor Dan Harvey has agreed to read this statement for me.


First, I'd like to commend the school board for thinking about ways to cut school costs. I hear all the time from taxpayers in our town who tell me they are having trouble paying their property taxes. This is especially true for elderly members of our community who are on fixed incomes and reside on properties they have owned for a long time. All possibilities for cutting school costs should be on the table. School property tax rates are largely based on expenditures at the local level and the school budget is voted upon locally. Control of local costs absolutely needs to be part of any comprehensive school planning discussion. The school board members have done us a service by opening the door to a community wide discussion on the best ways we can keep cost under control.


We are fortunate to have inherited a fine school system in our town. For decades many Georgia school directors have made hard choices that balance the desire to provide the best education for our children with what local taxpayers can afford. On the issue of designation of a high school however, Georgia voters have been clear in the past that they value choice over any of the alternatives.


The change in state education law made last session was not intended to be any kind of encouragement for communities to make the decision to designate a school. It simply added public schools to the list of allowable institutions for districts that do not have schools of their own. Formerly, the list included only private and independent schools. Now, public schools like BFA Fairfax are allowed too. This change was intended to give more choice to school districts and left the final decision making power with the voters, where it has always been.

Now, should Georgia designate a high school for our high schoolers? Will such a change really save enough to make it worthwhile? Will parents have more or less control over the course of studies? What about the board's involvement? What about the students? Will such a change help or hinder efforts begun locally to insure each child from our town gets a world class education that will allow him/her to compete with students from across the globe? These are all questions that remain to be answered before a final decision is made.


There are other ways to cut costs. Among them are exiting from the Supervisory Union and assigning necessary

administrative tasks to local administrators; changing energy sources to renewables; making better use of virtual schooling and opening the school building to year-round classes.


One thing is clear to me. Georgia has currently the very thing that many districts in the state would like to have. In Georgia we educate our grade school children locally and then allow families to choose a high school that best fits the needs of their child. This is school choice at its best and I have seen it work well for hundreds of Georgia families.


Representative Carolyn Branagan - Vermont House of Representatives


COMMUNITY REPSONSE




CLOSING COMMENTS

Irene Bonin thanked everyone for attending the forum and acknowledged that a lot of information was shared. She added that the Board depends on the voice of the community and will continue taking information. She invited interested community members to contact members of the Board via email or phone (see below).


Doug Bergstrom, Chair Phone: 524-3298 Email: dbergstrom@gemsvt.org

Jennifer Petrie, Clerk Phone: 527-6344 Email: jpetrie@gemsvt.org

Irene Bonin Phone: 524-7674 Email: ibonin@gemsvt.org

Matthew Crepeau Phone: 527-9887 Email: mcrepeau@gemsvt.org

Carl Laroe, Jr. Phone: 527-1032 Email: claroe@gemsvt.org


This item will be discussed at the regular monthly School Board meeting in November and added that the

Board would report back to the community.


ADJOURN

The meeting was adjourned at 8:00pm.